Biohazard Posted March 19, 2004 Report Share Posted March 19, 2004 Hi, I am going to be building in a Z-Vex Fuzz Factory to my guitar, and was thinking of having it like Matt Bellamy from Muse with two knobs in the front and the other three recessed in the back of the cavity cover on the back of the guitar. Does anyone knobw how they recessed the pots and how I would go about doing this. I am very puzzled as to how this would be done, as far is i know, all they do is do something with the original pots the board came with, no preset pots used or anything like that. Any ideas and information would be greatly appreciated. Also, if I have posted this in the wrong part of the forum I am sorry. Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weezerboy Posted March 19, 2004 Report Share Posted March 19, 2004 have a look back through a few threads in this section, and you will find a link to mansons, who made matts guitars, and he sells kits that do what you want to do Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biblical Posted March 20, 2004 Report Share Posted March 20, 2004 just get rid of the casing, put stab and drive on your guitar front, leave the others in the cavity space you have Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biohazard Posted March 20, 2004 Author Report Share Posted March 20, 2004 No, but in the back of Matts guitar, there are the other three pots. Not sticking out like the two on the front, but ajustable from the back, and its something to do with turning the pots the other way or somehting like that. I know the link to Manson's but they only sell the circuit board as it is in the casing, not with their Matt modifications. Any ideas? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biohazard Posted March 20, 2004 Author Report Share Posted March 20, 2004 Ok, I think the three recessed in the back of the guitar, in the cavity cover are trim pots adjustable with a screwdriver. So this leadsme to another question. What effect would it have on the Z-Vex Fuzz Factory if I took of three of the pots it came with, and replaced them with trim pots? What is the difference between all the hundreds of different pots out there? Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ansil Posted March 21, 2004 Report Share Posted March 21, 2004 trim pots will limit yoru controls on the fly which is usually the reason of having somehting of this manner in your guitar. hmm why not have the volume on a trim pot in the back and put the other two on the front and use concentric pots. so you can have all four controls on two shafts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biohazard Posted March 21, 2004 Author Report Share Posted March 21, 2004 There are lots of posibilities here, however what I am wanting to know is the difference between pots. If I use trim pots to mount one or two or three of the controls in the back of my guitar, what trim pots do I need to use. The pots on the Fuzz are linear I think. If I use a certain trim pot, will the sound produced be different from someone using the original pots that were on the board? Thanks for any help, and thanks ansil for the push/pull pot ideas. But the same question about the trim pot remails for the push pull pot, will different types of pots change the sound from the effect? Thanks for anymore help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jammy Posted March 21, 2004 Report Share Posted March 21, 2004 Stick with the same values of pot and you should be fine... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biohazard Posted March 21, 2004 Author Report Share Posted March 21, 2004 Ok thanks, should I also stick with linear, if I stick with linear pots, all of the same value, it doesnt matter whether they are trim pots, push/pull pots or whatever? If anyone else has anything to add about this then I would be grateful. Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jammy Posted March 21, 2004 Report Share Posted March 21, 2004 if you stick with the same type (linear) and the same value it doesnt matter wether you used push pulls, trims, whatever... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biohazard Posted March 21, 2004 Author Report Share Posted March 21, 2004 Ok thanks very much for that. Should I go as far as sitcking with the same company that makes the pots? Or would I be ok with using the same value linear trim pots of any kind. Thanks for your help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jammy Posted March 21, 2004 Report Share Posted March 21, 2004 Any company will be fine - they all produce on the same values.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ansil Posted March 21, 2004 Report Share Posted March 21, 2004 not sure on the lin or log but heres the values.. stab is 5k drive, comp and gate are 10k and vol is 5k hope that helps Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biohazard Posted March 21, 2004 Author Report Share Posted March 21, 2004 yes ansil thats correct. the pots are from mouser, they are PC mount linear taper pots. So as long as I use 5k or 10k linear pots, whether that be push/pull linear pots, or linear trim pots from any company. Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biohazard Posted March 23, 2004 Author Report Share Posted March 23, 2004 Hi, just thought i'd let everyne know that I cannot change the pots at all because for some reason it wont work. The pots the board comes with are the only pots that can be used with this particular circuit. Just thought i'd let everyone know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jammy Posted March 23, 2004 Report Share Posted March 23, 2004 who told you that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biohazard Posted March 23, 2004 Author Report Share Posted March 23, 2004 Manson's, they said that the reason Z-Vex uses those pots is because others wont work, they said that you would have thought using linear 10/5k pots from other manufactures would work, but its such a wierd circuit that it doesn't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ansil Posted March 24, 2004 Report Share Posted March 24, 2004 hm thats funny mine uses all alpha pots and stil sounds like the sound clips and thats not what comes with them??? as long as the taper and resistanceis right as well as the tolerance it hsoudl be fine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biohazard Posted March 24, 2004 Author Report Share Posted March 24, 2004 Alpha pots are the ones the fuzz factory uses. They are linear taper pots or something like that, from mouser, alpha pots. All 10k or 5k in value. But in not going to use different pots anymore. Just going to use the ones the fuzz factory comes with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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