Guitarfrenzy Posted March 8, 2004 Report Share Posted March 8, 2004 I'm fairly new to the board. I currently live in Indiana but will be moving to Little Rock later this year. Mike I have been to Indiana quite a bit myself, have alot of relatives who live at Indianapolis, and South Bend. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southpa Posted March 8, 2004 Report Share Posted March 8, 2004 The stwemac rod requires a 7/32" wide slot but thats only really necessary at the anchor blocks. You can use 1/4" bit but should shim the blocks in solid afterwards to prevent any rattling. The standard length for a normal size guitar (standard scale, short scale , doesn't matter) is the 18" truss rod. As far as "where" you rout depends on where you want to place the fretboard, allowing for a spot to get adjustment access. Heres a tip for keeping things clean when gluing and clamping the fretboard. Just prior to applying glue lay down a strip of 3/4" masking tape over the length of the slot, spread the glue on the neck face and then pull the tape off. This keeps the immediate area around the truss rod free of glue. Set and clamp the fretboard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guitarfrenzy Posted March 8, 2004 Report Share Posted March 8, 2004 Yes, that's true, also your suppose to put a little silicone on each nut. I also pour some wax into the truss rod slot so that the glue doesn't stick and the rod doesn't rattle. Works good for me, but you don't have to if you are real careful with the glue and used the trick Southpa suggested. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
urbansmurf Posted March 8, 2004 Author Report Share Posted March 8, 2004 im still very confused... im looking at http://www.alliedlutherie.com/truss_rods.htm but i dont know what length i need. i have a 25.5" scale (standard) and the neck itself will be about 19" long... can someone tell me what length i need? also, are these the kinds of truss rods that come out of the headstock and you adjust with an allen wrench? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
urbansmurf Posted March 8, 2004 Author Report Share Posted March 8, 2004 also, where do you reccomend i get fret wire? and btw an arkansas luthier club would own Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westhemann Posted March 8, 2004 Report Share Posted March 8, 2004 im still very confused... im looking at http://www.alliedlutherie.com/truss_rods.htm but i dont know what length i need. i have a 25.5" scale (standard) and the neck itself will be about 19" long... can someone tell me what length i need? also, are these the kinds of truss rods that come out of the headstock and you adjust with an allen wrench? 17 1/4" is what you need...stewmac would be the 18" stewmac also sells quality fretwire...i got the super jumbo last time...it feels scalloped it is so huge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guitarfrenzy Posted March 9, 2004 Report Share Posted March 9, 2004 Wes is right, that's the size you need to get for guitar and Stew Mac does have some good fretwire. I've bought some medium and wide sized fretwire and they both level out nicely. I do recommend though to get the tallest fretwire you can in the width you need, that way you have room to level and recrown the frets, and is just better to learn on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1337_guitar Posted March 9, 2004 Report Share Posted March 9, 2004 you can make a router table. it's a valuable tool for any shop. all you need is a small wood table and a router. here are some how to guides http://www.woodworking.org/WC/GArchive98/7...johnsrtab1.html http://www.woodshopdemos.com/smr-rob-.htm you can set it up to do most of the curves on your guitar or do straight edges (doubles as a jointer) and you should be able to use it to do what it is you're talking about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
urbansmurf Posted March 9, 2004 Author Report Share Posted March 9, 2004 i have a table mounted router, but because the neck isnt flat (42mm at nut, 56 at the end) the channel wouldnt be center. on the fret wire, whats the advantages/disatvantages with hard/soft? and on the truss rod, how would 17 1/4" be long enough when my neck is 19" to the nut? it wouldnt go all the way through Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southpa Posted March 9, 2004 Report Share Posted March 9, 2004 and on the truss rod, how would 17 1/4" be long enough when my neck is 19" to the nut? it wouldnt go all the way through Exactly. It doesn't matter, the truss rod will cover 95% of the neck anyway so it won't make any difference in its performance. i have a table mounted router, but because the neck isnt flat (42mm at nut, 56 at the end) the channel wouldnt be center I always rout my truss rod channel BEFORE I shape the sides and back of the neck ie. while its still square. But you aren't screwed yet. I found its easier to rout a truss rod slot from above so you can see what is going on. Clamp your neck down onto a table and set up a guide (for the router) so it is aligned as if the neck were still square. There is a certain order to making your neck and I think you should sit back and think about everything that needs to be done to completion before continuing. Figure out what sort of problems/difficulties might arise if you did one thing before another. Its all common sense. I don't start ANY project until I have it right in my head. During that time I am constantly working out ways to get things done the easiest way possible with the resources I have on hand. on the fret wire, whats the advantages/disatvantages with hard/soft? Hard lasts much longer, but you need to work a little harder at levelling and dressing. Sometimes its worth the 70 bucks Stewmac charges for the REAL diamond fret files. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
urbansmurf Posted March 9, 2004 Author Report Share Posted March 9, 2004 thanks alot southpa, westheman and guitar frenzy the reason im routing my truss rod AFTER i cut the sides is because im following the tutorial on the main page. this is my first guitar project of any kind, and i did not realize that this would happen. i'll keep that in mind next time. im on stewmac's site, and i think im going with the wide (.100" i think) and highest fretwire. how much do i need? will 2' suffice? thanks again all, you've really helped me out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
urbansmurf Posted March 9, 2004 Author Report Share Posted March 9, 2004 it says width = .110", hieght = .130", and crown = .55" sound decent? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john Posted March 9, 2004 Report Share Posted March 9, 2004 im still very confused... im looking at http://www.alliedlutherie.com/truss_rods.htm but i dont know what length i need. i have a 25.5" scale (standard) and the neck itself will be about 19" long... can someone tell me what length i need? also, are these the kinds of truss rods that come out of the headstock and you adjust with an allen wrench? 17 1/4" is what you need...stewmac would be the 18" stewmac also sells quality fretwire...i got the super jumbo last time...it feels scalloped it is so huge. i used the stewmac 18" hotrod on neck measuring 19"(did the job just fine!) besides, the 18" rod is never quite 18", more like 17 3/4. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
urbansmurf Posted March 9, 2004 Author Report Share Posted March 9, 2004 ok thanks, what do you think about those fretwire deminsions? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
urbansmurf Posted March 9, 2004 Author Report Share Posted March 9, 2004 and what exactlyis a hotrod Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
urbansmurf Posted March 9, 2004 Author Report Share Posted March 9, 2004 im looking at stewmac's martin style adjustable truss rod, its 17-3/8", will that do me? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Belial Posted March 9, 2004 Report Share Posted March 9, 2004 I don't see why not, although the hotrod is still a good choice. I'm sure you'd be happy with either one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john Posted March 9, 2004 Report Share Posted March 9, 2004 and what exactlyis a hotrod its what stewmac call their their double action truss rods. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kings_x Posted March 9, 2004 Report Share Posted March 9, 2004 I saw on the Stew Mac site's instructions for the Hotrod, they say to install the adjustment nut at the heel of the neck. Is it possible to install it the other way and have it come out at the peghead? Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guitarfrenzy Posted March 9, 2004 Report Share Posted March 9, 2004 I saw on the Stew Mac site's instructions for the Hotrod, they say to install the adjustment nut at the heel of the neck. Is it possible to install it the other way and have it come out at the peghead? Mike Sure it is, and the only way I'll ever install one is with the adjustment at the peghead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
urbansmurf Posted March 9, 2004 Author Report Share Posted March 9, 2004 my current trussrod is adjusted at the joint of the body, ill just get a spoke and do it that way. thanks all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
urbansmurf Posted March 9, 2004 Author Report Share Posted March 9, 2004 i was told today from a friend that the dust from my cocobolo fretboard is toxic! is this true? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbkim Posted March 9, 2004 Report Share Posted March 9, 2004 i was told today from a friend that the dust from my cocobolo fretboard is toxic! is this true? Yes, make sure you wear protective clothing, repiration apparatus and at least two condoms . cocobolo - Dermatitis, irritation to nose and throat, conjunctivitis, bronchial asthma, nausea Edit: I found many sites... here's one: http://www.iswonline.com/cwb/200208/woods.htm with tips on protection (Prevention is your best cure.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
urbansmurf Posted March 9, 2004 Author Report Share Posted March 9, 2004 thanks nyjbkim! smokeyjocustoms, you bastard! i could have died! (just kidding, no hard feelings.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guitarfrenzy Posted March 11, 2004 Report Share Posted March 11, 2004 thanks nyjbkim! smokeyjocustoms, you bastard! i could have died! (just kidding, no hard feelings.) lol.. Let us know how things are going on the project... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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