kavar57 Posted January 11, 2016 Author Report Share Posted January 11, 2016 the switch was for testing 9 vs 18 but I have dropped it, and after a few coats of tru oil I have been using there wax on the neck and I love how that feels. it has snowed here and slowed me down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prostheta Posted January 11, 2016 Report Share Posted January 11, 2016 Hmm. I wonder what blend their wax is....likely a lot of beeswax? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kavar57 Posted January 11, 2016 Author Report Share Posted January 11, 2016 bottle says carnauba, beeswax, and silicone. says it makes a water repellent film that does not rub off Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prostheta Posted January 12, 2016 Report Share Posted January 12, 2016 Interesting that they list them. The silicone bit is always a worry. That's something you never want around instruments! Silicone will be what makes it slippery. Beeswax keeps forever and preserves/stabilises other waxes and oils in the blend. Carnauba is for durability and hardness. If you fancy making your own (silicone-free) version, you should be able to acquire buttons of Carnauba and sticks of beeswax pretty cheaply. Turpentine is a good solvent for blending them, however that may react with the Tru-oil. Not sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kavar57 Posted January 12, 2016 Author Report Share Posted January 12, 2016 thanks prostheta I did not know about silicone being bad, I have looked and seen people say the same now but I have not seen why. is it hurtful? do I need to sand it off the back of the neck? I had 4 coats or so of tru oil before I added it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
curtisa Posted January 12, 2016 Report Share Posted January 12, 2016 Someone else may correct me, but I believe silicone is not recommended for wood as it makes subsequent refinishing or gluing problematic - the silicone remains within the fibres of the wood and prevents reliable adhesion of glues and finishes. If you have no intention of ever refinishing the instrument it's probably OK, but if you ever need to do repairs or modifications it may create difficulties later on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prostheta Posted January 12, 2016 Report Share Posted January 12, 2016 Oh no, don't go doing anything else to your neck. Simply, silicone contaminates everything in sight. If you finish/refinish guitars regularly, silicone contamination causes fish eyes in your finish and other problems. It's useful stuff (great for lubricating the ways on machine tools) but it's an invisible risk to work. In general it's a good idea not to have it around. Being an invisible thing, you don't know it's there until a problem crops up. It's like having a pet dish of listeria in your kitchen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
curtisa Posted January 12, 2016 Report Share Posted January 12, 2016 Bazinga! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prostheta Posted January 12, 2016 Report Share Posted January 12, 2016 Totally. Silicone is highly slippery and unreactive so it just sits there like a siloxane claymore. In many respects its properties are very similar to HDPE or other slippery long-chain polymer plastics. That's entirely why I used it for the luminescent inlay moulds. You could even use silicone spray to lubricate the moulds to make them even easier to demould. Not that I would want more silicone in my life thank you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kavar57 Posted January 12, 2016 Author Report Share Posted January 12, 2016 ok well thanks for the info, I think the neck will be fine then, I don't plan to keep refinishing it and it is not touching the wood so I should be ok. next time I will make/buy a better wax without silicone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prostheta Posted January 12, 2016 Report Share Posted January 12, 2016 Well, it's not a bad product by any means. Simply take super care when and where you apply it. Siloxanes (silicones) are in everything from hair conditioner to waxes like these. If you're ever going to do finishing, having a firm rein on where they go and what they contaminate is all. My friend used spray silicone lube to make the ways run smoothly on his expanding leaf table last year. He didn't realise just how far that overspray went....for several months the workshop floor was like a skating rink near the pin router. We never did manage to get it completely cleaned off....it ended up being easier to abandon the area. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kavar57 Posted January 14, 2016 Author Report Share Posted January 14, 2016 well I started polishing today, next is to finish the neck by fret leveling and gluing the nut (I may need to shim the nut but thought I would wait till after I fret level) then its doing the electronics. it feels weird to be getting to the finish line. I started this ‎August‎ ‎03‎, and I feel like it should not take me near as long on my next one. (a funk bass, but idk when I will get to start it) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kavar57 Posted January 14, 2016 Author Report Share Posted January 14, 2016 (edited) leveled the frets and polished some, leveling is not as hard as guitar shops tell you it is Edited January 14, 2016 by kavar57 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killemall8 Posted January 14, 2016 Report Share Posted January 14, 2016 1 hour ago, kavar57 said: leveled the frets and polished some, leveling is not as hard as guitar shops tell you it is  Leveling is easy. Its crowning that is the hard part. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kavar57 Posted January 15, 2016 Author Report Share Posted January 15, 2016 well I just put on the hardware and the bridge is a little crooked but with the bridge I have it should not be a problem it just looks amateurish o well its why I built the guitar 1st so I would muck it up and do better on the bass Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kavar57 Posted January 16, 2016 Author Report Share Posted January 16, 2016 well after a 4 hours (1-2 was trouble shooting) and 2 burns one second degree, I have the electronics in and working but it is late and I will not get to string it up till tomorrow and I will post pics and it will be done-ish still a few things to fix/work on like better crowning Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kavar57 Posted January 17, 2016 Author Report Share Posted January 17, 2016 (edited) ok done took longer then I thought to get everything together. I like it a lot so it was not a failure  the hard to see art on the back (can see better in person) is the tarot card 10 of swords and known as the "Lord of Ruin" Edited January 17, 2016 by kavar57 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kavar57 Posted January 17, 2016 Author Report Share Posted January 17, 2016 i suck at taking pics it looks a lot better in person Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prostheta Posted January 17, 2016 Report Share Posted January 17, 2016 It looks heavy! As in weight other than the obvious one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kavar57 Posted January 17, 2016 Author Report Share Posted January 17, 2016 (edited) it is around 8-9 lbs, the body was 4.5 and the neck 2 before the hardware (my food scale only goes up to 5 and the body was over it after, so not sure how much) Edited January 17, 2016 by kavar57 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kavar57 Posted January 20, 2016 Author Report Share Posted January 20, 2016 (edited) well after a few days of playing it I could not be more happy with it it has the sound and sustain I want and the 2 preamps are better then I thought they would be. thanks for the help, I know I can do much better now and when I get the cash I will start my bass. Â edit: why is that smiley face so big? lol all I did was type : ) Edited January 20, 2016 by kavar57 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prostheta Posted January 20, 2016 Report Share Posted January 20, 2016 I've no idea what that is doing there! I know the forum software replaces character sequences with emoticons however that is....unexpected. Huh. The cache says that the original image is on Crimson guitars' site? Did you accidentally paste HTML? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kavar57 Posted January 20, 2016 Author Report Share Posted January 20, 2016 no all I did was type  o well now I have seen a smiley that big  1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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