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well i have been wondering if i can justify getting involved in this corvus idea. I think we have already proved that its not to difficult to take something odd and clunky like the corvus originals and make something much more beautiful from that idea.

So anyway, i had said i would only allow myself 1 new build for myself this year (other than re-building a few older guitars) and it was going to be a bass. So if i am building a corvus it has to be a bass. Taking a shape that doesnt balance and making a bass from it doesnt make a lot of sense but i think i can get around that.... somehow!!

i started drawing and realised what i had done reminded me of an idea i had a few years back and never got around to trying... so i scribbled the idea down quickly

this is the first sketch

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i have never done a bowable instrument but i am thinking skinny waist (probably skinnier than it is now) and a tighter fretboard radius are essential. still not decided if i want it fretless yet, or what i am doing with the bridge/tuners - i might just go for a small headstock to save hassle/money

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It's amazing what you can balance with Hipshot ultra-lites on the headstock end and some big old heavy brass bridge on the other end, but yeah, I can see this pushing it.

Thing is, if you make it bow-able, you remove all the problems with balance! Give it a retractable pin, or a mount for a small tripod/stand, like many EUB, and make it to be played upright. If it's a stand mount, you also get around the fact that you can't put this thing in a guitar stand or lean it against an amp.

I'm liking the bevel in some places, and not in others. The bevel coming to a point at the rear bass end, combined with the "ax-like" bevel back there on the rear treble end gives it a little "grr" without being too ridiculous. I also really like the bevel that lines up with the cutaway in the back. I'm not sold on the bevel meeting the corners and coming to points on the vestigial "horns" at the upper end of the body, though.

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i did consider the idea of having it playable as an upright. definatly possible but i think i would like the versatility of soemthing that can swap from upright to normal

anyway, i am not rusing this and i know for a fact the bevels will probably change once i start working on the wood. at the moment i like either end of the shape - but not completely sold on having them together... we will see

i started thinking about doing it green and even carving a green man into it somehwere... i might not go that extreme but it may receive some inlay work... and possibly a sage green paint job similar to this scott french

http://www.scottfrench.com/i/Finished%20Cu...cut%20Guitar/09

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still getting the details sorted on this, one of my mates asked if he could borrow a bass and i dont actually have one around at the moment so i may go for a fretted bass just just because it will get more use, and i am just about to start a rethaer special Fretless EB0 replica/reimagining - another guitar with lazy gibson design that i feel will benefit from a rework

this is how gibson did it, short scale, all mahogany, usually bad sounding pickup, lazy ass pickguard design... etc

gibson_eb0_dc.jpg

so mine is going to be a longer scale through neck with a junior style pickguard that suits the shape much better. probably a TV yellow finish. It will have an EB0 pickup but its an old dimarzio one that actually works better than the vintage originals. that will be paired with a '76 thunderbird pickup in the sweetspot. should sound more thunderbird like but still have some EB0 qualities

the general idea:

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anyway, that will be fretless so i want to do a fretted bass with the corvus and may also drop the bowable idea unless i find a way to do it without loosing standard bass playability - i did consider a reversed compound radius to get it fretting like a standard bass near the nut but still bowable over the pickups

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meh.

the EB0 is a comission from a repeat customer. He has given my free reign and nice parts to do it with. i know i can get it to balance better than an original, definately better than a thunderbird. The gibson EB0's always seems to me like they were designed as an afterthought to go with the juniors, done quickly and cheaply. The plan is to inject more junior styling into the design, get past the farty gibson bass sound (longer scale, change in woods/fretboard) but still have the style

i always find it funny how people here jump on things as being badly balanced... so many classic designs are actually quite poor designs but we accept them. We seem to be less tolerant of people doing new designs with those similar 'faults' that musicians have shown they are willing to live with.

If someone asks for a classic design i am happy to do it because i love most of them. If they ask for an 'improved' version of a classic design i am even happier. I always think about balance with everything i build, probably more than the people that come along and say it wont balance.

have faith that i know what i am doing, or am happy with the compromise i am making

the corbass idea may have balance issues - but if i think it looks good enough i will go with it and do all i can to reduce those issues knowing full well that if people play thunderbirds (and it will never be as bad as that) then perfect balance really isnt a deal breaker for everyone

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hahaha...i don't think you see the bird...the lower horn is supposed to be the beak...this looks like some picasso or dali-esque bat

I suppose i should say something about the design...not really liking it...but perhaps there's still some potential. Good to see some interesting ideas though...I figure if you are going to make something as weird and ugly as this, you should perhaps try and make a feature of it...

like this ferrington string quartet...

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this being a violin, but you get the idea...

Unfortunately the corvus is inherently ugly by comparison.

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i think mitch is seeing the can opener bit as the beak and the axe blade bit as the wing coming down - like a flying crow in side profile

i am not completely settled on the design - but it wont be something everybody likes, thats for sure!!

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my corbass ended up not being very corvus like at all.

bass2.jpg

i know john isnt going to like it but i cant justify doing the corvus thing at the moment. i still have something i want to try with it at some point but not just now

but in brighter news i did want to do a bass so i started one. I drew around my 60's teisco spectrum bass for the shape, thought i would throw that in there before someone says its a schecter rip-off

its going to be simple, maple neck with black binding and dots. a finish like this

Squier51.jpg

which is a rough idea for a guitar i may start soon

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Isn't Kisekae just great! I've had a LOT of fun on there in the past year. Try that color & shape, but with a tortoise p/g. It's a little dark, but the combo looks great.

Hey, do the Corbass or don't - it's not really any skin off my nose. I won't say I'm not disappointed, but you were very clear from the beginning that you have other priorities that HAVE to be met first. It's all good.

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