jay5 Posted April 16, 2005 Report Share Posted April 16, 2005 Myka also uses a 7/8" radius bit I believe. The bits themselves are pretty easy to find. Just search roundover bits. You will need a router that can accept a 1/2" shank though. Even if you found a bit that size with a 1/4" shank I wouldnt buy it, a 1/2" is going to be much more stable. Read myka's section on his site about how the prosess goes, its pretty self explanatory. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xlr8 Posted April 16, 2005 Author Report Share Posted April 16, 2005 Hi thanks for the response, any chance of posting some pics of how to correctly do this?? sure would appreciate it very much, also where would I get a cutter like this from part number??. I've seen Mykas jig and does he use a 1 1/4 roundover or have I got it wrong. Kammo1. ← Firstly you need to build your own jig to hold the neck, take a look at both Mykas and mine. The important thing is being able to hold the neck securely with the top edge of the neck parralell to the base of the jig (horizontal) AND make it such a way that your hands go nowhere near the cutter. Turn the bit at the slowest rpm your router will go and take four or so passes lowering the bit just a little at a time. The correct direction of cut would be to start the bit on the right and moving the neck to the right so it cuts along the neck to the left. All woodworking shops and Home depot/Lowes usually carry a 7/8" roundover bit, as Jay5 says - get one with a 1/2" shaft (I'd be surprised if they made a bit this size with a 1/4"). If you're still not sure I suggest you hang on 'til you figure it out, done incorrectly it could be very dangerous. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kammo1 Posted April 17, 2005 Report Share Posted April 17, 2005 Hey guys many thanks for your responses. Yep I'm gonna make myself a nice secure jig to hold the neck and also support the router in an overhead position so its all safe and my hands come nowhere near the cutter. One thing that puzzled me is that when rounding over the back of the neck won't the bearing go past the centre line on the neck towards the headstock end as the size difference from the heel end is greater and this will in turn make the bearing run aginst the curve? difficult to explain but you get the picture?? Maybe a tutorial with pics would help me to see the wood from the trees and also help other fellow luthiers to grasp the concept. Maybe yourself or Myka would like to help. Kammo1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jay5 Posted April 17, 2005 Report Share Posted April 17, 2005 One thing that puzzled me is that when rounding over the back of the neck won't the bearing go past the centre line on the neck towards the headstock end as the size difference from the heel end is greater and this will in turn make the bearing run aginst the curve? Kammo, you and I must think alike cause' that always puzzled me about this method. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xlr8 Posted April 17, 2005 Author Report Share Posted April 17, 2005 One thing that puzzled me is that when rounding over the back of the neck won't the bearing go past the centre line on the neck towards the headstock end as the size difference from the heel end is greater and this will in turn make the bearing run aginst the curve? difficult to explain but you get the picture?? ← No, you set the roundover bit so that the max depth is achieved at the nut end leaving a small centre flat at the heel. A little work with a spokeshave/rasp/sanding sees it finished. As for a tutorial, I hardly have enough time to build these things let alone do a tutorial. however I am doing another neck later in the week so I'll try to take more pics that illustrate it better. TBH Mykas site explains it pretty well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xlr8 Posted April 18, 2005 Author Report Share Posted April 18, 2005 Started staining the top to see how it looked It is a much darker Blue than my Tele plus its only had a couple of coats so there's no depth to it yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CudBucket Posted April 18, 2005 Report Share Posted April 18, 2005 Looks great. Although I'd be afraid to stain before the body is completely routed and drilled for bridge, controls, etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xlr8 Posted April 18, 2005 Author Report Share Posted April 18, 2005 Looks great. Although I'd be afraid to stain before the body is completely routed and drilled for bridge, controls, etc. ← Routing's all done and the control and bridge holes are all centre punched. You're right tho', I wouldn't stain it if everything hadn't been worked out and checked. (edited 'cause on re-reading it sounded a little off ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CudBucket Posted April 18, 2005 Report Share Posted April 18, 2005 Looks great. Although I'd be afraid to stain before the body is completely routed and drilled for bridge, controls, etc. ← Routing's all done and the control and bridge holes are all centre punched. You're right tho', I wouldn't stain it if everything hadn't been worked out and checked. (edited 'cause on re-reading it sounded a little off ) ← Oh, sorry, I couldn't tell that from the pic. I love the color. What kind of stain are you using? Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xlr8 Posted April 18, 2005 Author Report Share Posted April 18, 2005 Oh, sorry, I couldn't tell that from the pic. I love the color. What kind of stain are you using? Dave ← Stewmacs liquid stain, colourtone? Anyway I did the usual black and sand back first and this is just a few coats ragged on. I'll spray it with sanding sealer and then a couple of toner coats followed by a little shading at the edges and then more clear. Neil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CudBucket Posted April 20, 2005 Report Share Posted April 20, 2005 Gonna use more of the blue for the toner coats? Do you have any pics of the body when you had applied the black and then sanded it back? I'm curious to see it compared to how the black looked on mine. Thanks. Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guitman32 Posted April 20, 2005 Report Share Posted April 20, 2005 Very beautiful stain xlr8!! Looks like its going to look deeeeeep once youre done. What does your paint setup look like? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xlr8 Posted April 20, 2005 Author Report Share Posted April 20, 2005 Gonna use more of the blue for the toner coats? Do you have any pics of the body when you had applied the black and then sanded it back? I'm curious to see it compared to how the black looked on mine. Thanks. Dave ← Dave, Sorry no I don't have any pics of it sanded back, I do remove most of the black so it's just in the edges of the soft grain. What does your paint setup look like? I have a pretty large compressor (14cfm) and use a devilbiss SRI hvlp grabity fed gun. HVLP takes a bit of getting used to but I find I can get it as good as a convential gun. I also have a badger 150 airbrush that I use for the detail shading etc. Neil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strange Fruit Posted April 25, 2005 Report Share Posted April 25, 2005 wow, looking good man. cant wait to see the finished beauty! Matt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xlr8 Posted November 2, 2005 Author Report Share Posted November 2, 2005 Well blimey it's been a while but these are nearly done. The Tele should be finished next week and the Junior a couple of weeks after. Having a young daughter and building guitars for other people really does take up a lot of time http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v65/xlr8...le/fd9ec271.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v65/xlr8...le/e05cbaa8.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v65/xlr8...le/36fb8467.jpg Neil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigdguitars Posted November 2, 2005 Report Share Posted November 2, 2005 sweet nice color! That ebay quilted maple? looks like a piece I sold a while back... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xlr8 Posted November 2, 2005 Author Report Share Posted November 2, 2005 sweet nice color! That ebay quilted maple? looks like a piece I sold a while back... ← No Derek, I haven't bought any wood from eBay as yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gun Posted November 2, 2005 Report Share Posted November 2, 2005 Yeah Neil nothing stops you now!!! You're making a lot of interesting guitars lately!!! I look forward to see complete another Les Paul!!! For now that's a great tele, I like the finishing job you do. You use polyurethane, right? I heard a lot of different way to polish poly. What is it yours? It seems to work very fine. Gian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xlr8 Posted November 2, 2005 Author Report Share Posted November 2, 2005 Yeah Neil nothing stops you now!!! You're making a lot of interesting guitars lately!!! I look forward to see complete another Les Paul!!! For now that's a great tele, I like the finishing job you do. You use polyurethane, right? I heard a lot of different way to polish poly. What is it yours? It seems to work very fine. Gian ← Hi Gian, Yes I use a premium two part Auto poly. I wet sand to 1500 grit taking care not to get water near any exposed wood. Then its over to this Where I use a medium then fine compound working slowly and applying very little pressure. Neil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gun Posted November 3, 2005 Report Share Posted November 3, 2005 I want one of those!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xlr8 Posted January 9, 2006 Author Report Share Posted January 9, 2006 http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v65/xlr8...le/136499e6.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v65/xlr8...le/e2f2f682.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v65/xlr8...le/627d478b.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v65/xlr8...le/61f7e6fb.jpg Lots of reflections in the pics but you get the idea. Neil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maiden69 Posted January 9, 2006 Report Share Posted January 9, 2006 I'm still amazed at the nice mahogany that you get your hands on! And I like the nice figure on the neck too... Very classy, and I don't like teles!!! I would had to go with an EMG TOM equiped tele to make one, everything else can be just like yours. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xlr8 Posted January 9, 2006 Author Report Share Posted January 9, 2006 I'm still amazed at the nice mahogany that you get your hands on! ← I'll save you a Tele sized piece so you'll have to build it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maiden69 Posted January 9, 2006 Report Share Posted January 9, 2006 If you are serious about that let me know, because I WILL build it!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MzI Posted January 10, 2006 Report Share Posted January 10, 2006 how long do you usually spend buffing with that oh so wonderful looking machine MzI Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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