borge Posted April 1, 2005 Author Report Share Posted April 1, 2005 thanks eric thats sounds alot like what ive been doing (stressing fingertips, starting with open 5th chords E A D) with some extra stuff that sounds very helpfull she does have a bad habit of "palming the neck" ive noticed it leads to not using figertips. ive been telling her to use her thumb but i dont set a good example ( i try not to "palm" when shes around but once you learn some hendrix you realise the thumb is for freting the e string and not alot else lol) it sure is a whole different ball game teaching someone so young with small weak hands Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TGwaH Posted April 2, 2005 Report Share Posted April 2, 2005 I'm a fan of the so called "oldies progression" G-Em-C-D. It'll cover about million and one different songs depending on the strum pattern. 4 beats per chord and you've got "Last Kiss" a song everyone (but my girlfriend) loves Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddiefletcher Posted April 4, 2005 Report Share Posted April 4, 2005 and nobody has yet mentioned Every Rose has its thorn by poison? Like 4 chords... boring as hell but come on its ccdevile how hard can it get? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
borge Posted April 4, 2005 Author Report Share Posted April 4, 2005 do u think a 10 year old girl is gunna like poison? poison is an allright band but thy are one of if not the cheesiest bands ever plus i hate cc deville Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GregP Posted April 4, 2005 Report Share Posted April 4, 2005 I still palm the neck like a mutha. Lots of self-taught musicians seem to, and whether that's a good thing or not (I vote not) at least I'm in good company. Greg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westhemann Posted April 4, 2005 Report Share Posted April 4, 2005 I know that, i was just trying to say there darn easy if you dont add a 3rd finger, you should only use 2 fingers for power chords...even for the full 3 string power chords. watch anyone in metal play them and you will see what i mean.james hetfield is a good example.just flatten your pinky to cover two strings Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigdguitars Posted April 4, 2005 Report Share Posted April 4, 2005 anything by the beatles... day tripper comes to mind black dog pretty woman easy riffs are the key, student has to want to learn how to play... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToneMonkey Posted April 4, 2005 Report Share Posted April 4, 2005 anything by the beatles... day tripper comes to mind easy riffs are the key, student has to want to learn how to play... ← Christ, I can play that so it must be easy. Peaches by The Presidents of the United States of America easy peasy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jnewman Posted April 4, 2005 Report Share Posted April 4, 2005 C'mon, guys, everyone knows the original James Bond theme is the easiest song ever . Except for that funky chord at the end. I don't even know it's name. Sweet Home Alabama for easy open chords. If I Could Be Like That by Three Doors Down for across-the-guitar melody picking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erikbojerik Posted April 4, 2005 Report Share Posted April 4, 2005 I know that, i was just trying to say there darn easy if you dont add a 3rd finger, you should only use 2 fingers for power chords...even for the full 3 string power chords. watch anyone in metal play them and you will see what i mean.james hetfield is a good example.just flatten your pinky to cover two strings ← You really use your pinky for that??? It's ring finger for me....leaves pinky for PowerChord-sus4. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westhemann Posted April 4, 2005 Report Share Posted April 4, 2005 I know that, i was just trying to say there darn easy if you dont add a 3rd finger, you should only use 2 fingers for power chords...even for the full 3 string power chords. watch anyone in metal play them and you will see what i mean.james hetfield is a good example.just flatten your pinky to cover two strings ← You really use your pinky for that??? It's ring finger for me....leaves pinky for PowerChord-sus4. ← don't know what chord that is...i am no theory buff. but yes,i do.but i change fingerings depending on the rythm it is tucked into. for example...the prechorus of "master of puppets" i use the ring finger...it just makes more sense in that particular application. but it's easier on the hand to use the pinky on frets 1-5...less fatigue for me. like i said...hetfield does it too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marzocchi705 Posted April 4, 2005 Report Share Posted April 4, 2005 Thats the way i play my powerchords, but i normaly end up with a dead note or sore pinky so i cut my losses and just play the 2 strings. I get stick for it at school but i can play a hell of a lot faster rythms than they can, hehe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
borge Posted April 4, 2005 Author Report Share Posted April 4, 2005 same here marzo if i do play 3 strings its index on the 5th and pinkey on the octave i sort of got in the habit of two string powerchords doing the megadeath spider crawl thing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westhemann Posted April 5, 2005 Report Share Posted April 5, 2005 most people in metal prefer the more powerful ,fuller sound of the extra string.heck...i play my barre chords with three strings as well(pinky on the octave) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThePlague Posted April 5, 2005 Report Share Posted April 5, 2005 i'm actually the opposite when i'm playing metal. i don't use the octave because i want to get only the low end of the chord. (by the way, i'm confused as to what you mean by three string barre chords) plus i like to use power chords in place of single notes for some fast riffing stuff. green day - good riddance (time of your life) first song i ever learned green day - brain stew one of the easiest power chord songs ever Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westhemann Posted April 5, 2005 Report Share Posted April 5, 2005 X X 7 5 5 X for example. only problem with using 2 string power chords for everything is that it makes the music very plain and monotonous.very one dimensional. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GregP Posted April 5, 2005 Report Share Posted April 5, 2005 what kind of chord is that, Wes? Looks like some sort of inversion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
borge Posted April 5, 2005 Author Report Share Posted April 5, 2005 greg A/D5 its called i think (or i guess u could technically call it an A4th ), yes it is an inversion, the metallica song leper messiah has alot of them if u want a example oh and alot of acdc only problem with using 2 string power chords for everything is that it makes the music very plain and monotonous.very one dimensional. ← and adding an inverted fourth as in ur example cures this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westhemann Posted April 5, 2005 Report Share Posted April 5, 2005 and adding an inverted fourth as in ur example cures this? actually,using more than just power chords 24/7 helps quite a bit.metal is supposed to be intelligent and well thought out,not just a barrage of 2 string power chords.how boring is that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sindlei Posted April 5, 2005 Report Share Posted April 5, 2005 (edited) if you have the fingers, use them all to play the chord, if there's more notes, that's when you start barring some of them to achieve the chord you're going for. when i'm playing metal or any heavy music, i typically play 1-5-8 powerchords, using my index ring and pinky. to add sme flavor, i'll move some fingers around, like making the 8th a M7th with my middle finger, or the 8th a m9th or M9th with my pinky, or lift up my ring finger and barre my index to diminish the 5th to a 4th...you should always learn how to use all your fingers in a chord in different situations, if you get stuck once trying to switch things up, then go back and work on the technique. there's no reason why adding an octave to a 2 finger 5th chord should slow the rhythm down at all. i also use different intervals, as 5ths get mighty boring to the ear, try throwing in some minor and major thirds, put in some real dissonant suspensions here and there, play 4ths..i love tritones, especially with the octave on top, like: -8- -7- -6- have to use it in the right places for something really edgy and in your face, but i'm a real big fan of leading off powerchords with some 3rds and 4ths. Edited April 5, 2005 by Sindlei Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erikbojerik Posted April 5, 2005 Report Share Posted April 5, 2005 OK....2-string D power chord: --X-- --X-- --X-- --7-- --5-- --X-- 3-string D power chord with D-octave --X-- --X-- --7-- --7-- --5-- --X-- 4-string Dmaj (it's why I use the ring finger, barre all 3 across the 7th fret) --X-- --7-- (maj3rd) --7-- --7-- --5-- --X-- From this position, it is easy to get to some other common chords: 4-string Dsus4 --X-- --8-- (sus4, pinky) --7-- --7-- --7-- --5-- --X-- 5-string Dm --5-- first finger barre --6-- middle (minor 3rd) --7-- pinky --7-- ring --5-- first finger barre --X-- 5-string D2 (or Dsus2) --5-- first finger barre --5-- first finger barre (sus2) --7-- pinky --7-- ring --5-- first finger barre --X-- ...is how I do it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westhemann Posted April 5, 2005 Report Share Posted April 5, 2005 don't get me wrong...like i said depending on the song i do switch up fingerings quite a bit..."panama" for example... what i usually do is i try to play the song as the artist wrote it....watching hetfield back in the eightees obviously taught me to do my power chords that way...but there are very few applications it does not work well on. but my fingers are fairly well trained....i use them all i do disagree about using three fingers for three string power chords...there is no reason..it creates sloppiness at the speeds i play rythm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skibum5545 Posted April 6, 2005 Report Share Posted April 6, 2005 As much as I love theory discussions, and hate to interrupt them, you guys have to see this: http://www.kicken.com/audio/Patrick_Kicken...emvsbritney.mp3 The Oasis/GD mesh reminded me of it, and it is by far the most frightening thing I have ever heard. In fact, there is a whole new branch of science devoted to deriving theories from the existence of this phononmenon in the field of Musical Overlay Reciprocality, possibly disproving as many as three separate commonly accepted principles of Newtonian physics and myriad more theories of the modern music industry. On a side note, I wonder how it fits in to the Grand Unified Theory? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erikbojerik Posted April 6, 2005 Report Share Posted April 6, 2005 i do disagree about using three fingers for three string power chords...there is no reason..it creates sloppiness at the speeds i play rythm ← Indeed....not the way to play metal. Seems to work for the classical guitar players though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westhemann Posted April 6, 2005 Report Share Posted April 6, 2005 i do disagree about using three fingers for three string power chords...there is no reason..it creates sloppiness at the speeds i play rythm ← Indeed....not the way to play metal. Seems to work for the classical guitar players though. ← definately true..they do quite well that way...but i think the difference is that in classical guitar you want no interference with the nearby strings that barring would cause. as i am sure you know,in metal you want to mute the nearby strings as you play to keep the gain from creating noise with them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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